Since we love Halloween films a lot, we’re doing one other consolation rewatch. This week it’s Sensible Magic, directed by Griffin Dunne and starring Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman. Plus, we’re doing our e-book report on Sensible Magic by Alice Hoffman.
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Present Notes:
Decor inspiration
Aunt’s home – The proper home as a result of:
- It’s by the ocean
- Has a white picket fence
- Black fencing on roof
- Massive stunning cozy kitchen with an island that results in a greenroom
- Rose bushes exterior
- Cozy unfinished attic with beds
Different cozy inspiration (vogue, meals, drink or something?)-
Chocolate Tipsy Cake
Midnight Margaritas
Aunts’ Outfits
Price the Film from 0-5 Whip Cream Cans
Elsie – 5
Emma – 5 or 6
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Episode 205 Transcript:
Emma: You’re listening to the Stunning Mess Podcast, your cozy consolation pay attention. Since we love Halloween films a lot, we’re doing one other consolation rewatch. And this week, it’s Sensible Magic, directed by Griffin Dunn and starring Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman. Plus, we’re doing our e-book report on Sensible Magic by Alice Hoffman. An entire Sensible magic present!
Elsie: I’m so enthusiastic about this. Yeah, I simply completed my Sensible Magic, all of the books, 4 in a row. So I really feel like I’m in my Sensible Magic period proper now. And it’s coming at an excellent time.
Emma: Yeah, I’ve solely learn the Sensible Magic first one. It’s within the e-book membership. However yeah, it has two sequels.
Elsie: It has two prequels and a sequel.
Emma: Two prequels and a sequel. That’s loopy.
Elsie: So earlier than we bounce in, I assumed you may wish to inform me about your first flight abroad with a toddler since that’s an expertise that you simply’ve simply conquered.
Emma: Sure, it was on my Halloween bucket listing, or perhaps it was an autumn bucket listing. I assume not Halloween. It’s autumn bucket listing was we had been going to Costa Rica as a household, and it’s the primary time Oscar used his passport. The primary time he went on a flight, his little child image, and the primary time he went to the seashore. So inform you concerning the flight. So to Costa Rica from the place we dwell is 2 flights, and the primary one’s like an hour and a half, after which the second’s like two and a half hours. And we had a reasonably quick layover, sort of the right quantity the place, like, sweating a tiny bit to catch the airplane, you already know, you’re like, we’ve no time to get a snack or go to the toilet. But in addition, that sort of labored, as a result of I really feel like numerous time in an airport with a child is sort of powerful, as a result of they only wish to contact all the pieces and purchase all the pieces in all of the outlets, as a result of I did that on the best way house. Anyway, his first flight was actually cute. I like, filmed his response because the airplane was taking off. He was like, sitting in my lap. He had his personal seat. He’s like, at an age the place it’s like, he does sit in my lap quite a bit, however we did purchase his personal seat. Trigger he’s like, at an age the place you would do a lap child. Anyway, he was sitting in my lap by the window and he was watching the airplane take off. And I really feel like he simply had his common Oscar response, which is simply sort of frowning, which I believe is simply him considering and like actually observing. He’s a really observing child and typically you assume he doesn’t actually know what’s happening after which he’ll repeat one thing later the place you’re like, Oh wow, you actually like had been tuned in on that. I didn’t notice it.
Elsie: That’s a really cute, like critical face, like a concentrating face. It’s sort of his default setting.
Emma: Yeah, it’s his default setting. So, he did that, and it was actually cute, and he was simply actually nice for the flights. I really had, on the best way there, we had two, like, random strangers inform us how nice he was on the flight, and certainly one of them was like, you guys are nice mother and father, he was so nice, or, you already know, simply, simply being good. And on the best way house, I had a type of too, the place they had been like, he did so good, he didn’t actually fuss in any respect. And, after all, it’s actually not a metric of goodness. I believe when you do fuss on a flight while you’re a child, that’s additionally regular and positive. However I believe that they had been simply attempting to be encouraging, which I believe was good. And, you already know, I used to be anxious about him having a meltdown, and he didn’t. And likewise, if he had, that might have been okay too, nevertheless it wouldn’t have been enjoyable for me. However yeah, he was actually good. He did get to observe extra Paw Patrol than we usually let him watch, however that’s okay. It was a journey day, however he additionally had these reusable stickers that had been like pumpkins and bats and he put them everywhere in the seat, however they had been just like the reusable sorts of, they peel off very easy. So there’s no like ruining the seat or something. And he would stick them on me. I had my emergency field of band-aids, as you instructed me, however we didn’t find yourself needing them. However I had them stuffed approach down in his backpack and I used to be like, if issues hit the wall, get these band-aids out. However issues went fairly properly. So it was actually cute to observe him simply observe all the pieces. And he actually was a delight and straightforward and I bought actually fortunate.
Elsie: Oh, that’s good. That’s the universe being like, e-book extra journey. That’s nice.
Emma: After I bought house, I instructed Elsie, I used to be like, I really feel like I might need used up numerous karma, so I should be trying round for alternatives to love to do good issues as a result of I really feel just like the universe was like, No delays, no issues in any respect. Your luggage didn’t get, you already know, like all of the little issues that occur while you journey, like nothing unhealthy occurred. Every little thing was no diarrhea for him or him. And it was simply nice. So I used to be like, okay, I really feel like I used up some karma. I should be in search of alternatives. That’s what that is. So yeah, it was a very good time although. It was very particular and candy. And naturally, as all mother and father know, there are arduous moments touring with a child, a toddler. And there was all that too, however truthfully, all of that’s already fading from my reminiscence, and I’m identical to, oh, he was so cute on the airplane. Oh, he was so cute on the seashore. Like, you understand how you do, you identical to, flip the entire thing into rose-colored recollections, which I believe is an efficient technique to like, undergo life. I’m like, I’m not going to recollect any of the powerful elements. Overlook that half.
Elsie: I believe it’s a mandatory a part of like, how our parenting brains work.
Emma: I believe so too. It’s a really survival. You already know, in any other case, I don’t know if folks would have second or third youngsters, you already know, since you’d be like, no, no can do. However anyway, in order that was nice.
Elsie: Yay. Properly, I’m completely happy for you. That’s great. So we’re speaking about sensible magic, the film on this episode, after which we may even speak concerning the books and even the e-book sequence, it’s its personal little universe, and I’m so completely happy to be part of it. So, for these of you who haven’t seen Sensible Magic, it’s a film from 1998. We positively suggest it, it’s an incredible film to observe through the spooky season. So that is the premise. Two witch sisters raised by their eccentric aunts in a small city face closed-minded prejudice and a curse that threatens to stop them from ever discovering lasting love. It’s so good. It’s positively my favourite witch story that I’ve learn, and the film is so cozy. So we’ll speak quite a bit about the home. Okay, so recollections from while you first watched the film. My first time to observe it was really fairly lately, it was a time after I lived in Nashville and Emma came over. And I do not forget that it wasn’t Halloween in any respect. It was like a distinct time of yr, however you had been like, you haven’t seen sensible magic. Let’s watch it proper now.
Emma: Yeah, I used to be so shocked you hadn’t seen it. And so I used to be excited to indicate you one thing. Trigger I really feel such as you’ve all the time like seen all the pieces, you already know? So I used to be excited.
Elsie: So it was very lately for me. After which I’ve positively watched it yearly because it’s certainly one of my kitchen films. Cozy vibes, and films, positively match into that. Do you keep in mind your first time to observe it?
Emma: I don’t. It was most likely highschool or school. I’m a giant Sandra Bullock fan. Like, I believe she’s hilarious and I additionally love romantic comedies and he or she’s in numerous romantic comedies. Her and Jennifer Aniston to me are sort of like comparable vibes as actresses the place they’re actually humorous and actually stunning and infrequently they’ve like love curiosity tales. So anyway, I really feel like I’ve seen most of her films. Like if I’m simply on my own or looking for a film and I don’t wish to prefer it. Scroll via all the pieces or I simply need one thing that’s like straightforward and light-weight. I don’t wish to watch the newest artwork factor. You already know, then I’m like, what Sandra Bullock film have I not seen? So at this level, I really feel like I’ve seen all of them, however that’s most likely how I found it was identical to, Oh, a Sandra Bullock film. Oh, it’s witches. Attention-grabbing.
Elsie: Within the period of Blockbuster movies, Emma was strolling via. Scanning for Sandra Bullock’s face.
Emma: Yeah, I’m like, excuse me, child behind the counter, the place’s your Sandra Bullock films?
Elsie: And this, I’ve seen the film cowl, like the image, is sort of a actually cute portrait of Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman with like a candle or one thing?
Emma: Yeah, I really feel prefer it’s attempting, it nearly makes it appear to be it’s going to be scary, nevertheless it’s really not a scary film actually in any respect, I wouldn’t say.
Elsie: The title Sensible Magic makes, you already know, it’s going to be like a little bit bit candy. Like, I don’t know. It doesn’t appear to be a spooky.
Emma: And there was this complete period the place issues had been popping out with witches. Like, I really feel just like the craft was a giant one, which is extra of like a highschool drama. And this one’s extra like adults. It’s probably not about highschool or something. They’re youngsters within the film after which they develop up, however largely I believe it takes place of their twenties or thirties. So anyway, yeah, of all of the like, which films of that point of the nineties, this was simply my favourite and it’s very excessive on the listing so far as like films that I’ve rewatched many instances. This one’s most likely up there, like proper below the Harry Potter. Which can be about magic now that I’m fascinated with it. Perhaps I identical to magic. I don’t know.
Elsie: For positive. Okay, so the home on this film is among the final film homes of all time. I do know that we’ve talked about it on the podcast most likely greater than 100 instances in our 200 episodes or no matter. However yeah, I used to be studying a little bit bit about this morning and So this typically occurs, and it’s arduous to simply accept, however this is among the heartbreakers, identical to the home from the vacation, the cottage, the place it isn’t and was by no means an actual home. It was a prop. It was a, like, shell of a home the place they constructed the outside, they filmed the film after which they instantly tore it down within the nineties. So, I’ve seen folks publish on-line the ground plan of the home and kind of attempt to wish to make it, like kind it into an actual, I believe it might be the final word dollhouse when you’re if anybody’s a dollhouse individual they usually wish to do a tiny recreation.
Emma: Oh, it might be a good looking dollhouse. It might have a little bit rosebush on the surface.
Elsie: However yeah, it was a little bit heartbreaking to me. I believe that the design of it although, was nonetheless an actual home that was designed, I imply, despite the fact that it’s for a film, it was actually constructed as, we will take a look at photos, we will recognize it. So they are saying that it was designed as like a cross between a Victorian house, clearly, after which additionally a lighthouse as a result of it’s a coastal home. It’s proper on the water and it does have very distinctive, sort of lighthouse arising like a unicorn horn, it has unicorn horn. Yeah, so I like that about it. I believe it’s positively a beautiful house. If any of our listeners, is I’m a billionaire and also you’re trying to recreate one thing. I believe that this could be the one to recreate. I’d positively come and spend the weekend with you, have some midnight margaritas, and somebody please do it. Can we not all create a GoFundMe and make this into an Airbnb or one thing?
Emma: I do know. Yeah, I believe what makes it like partially so romantic is it’s proper by the water. So I believe any home that, like, you’ll be able to see water, whether or not it’s an enormous lake or the ocean, that to me simply feels so serene, like, so peaceable and calm. It’s very romantic to me. Perhaps that’s as a result of I’m from Missouri and we’re landlocked. We do have huge lakes, however I don’t dwell on the lake. I like It. At one level the youngsters like steal this syrup that’s been sort of like poisoned they usually run down simply not very removed from the home and there’s like rocky, rocky, it’s probably not like a seashore like sand however like rocks the place the waves hit up on it they usually pour the syrup into the ocean and it’s identical to proper there.
Elsie: Yeah, it’s purported to be New England.
Emma: You can go drink your espresso on the market within the morning, you already know, that’s the dream, however yeah, the home appears very sort of like a lighthouse, however positively identical to a home. I believe a part of the story within the film and I believe it’s additionally within the e-book is that one of many elders which’s is from generations in the past was banished and so she was on this type of small island space by herself. And so this was like the place she settled and the home over time bought constructed. So it’s in this type of particular spot as a result of she bought banished away from everyone else as a result of she was a witch, however yeah, I believe perhaps my favourite half is the kitchen which appears to sort of spill out into this nearly like greenhouse room of all these vegetation. Which is once more so romantic in that you simply assume like, oh you would simply stroll into that little Sunroom And decide your herbs after which stroll again into the kitchen and end making your spaghetti sauce with contemporary basil or no matter, you already know, prefer it simply appears so particular and enjoyable and like close to civilization but additionally tucked away. However yeah, the kitchen has this actually fascinating hood. I don’t know the best way to describe it. It’s like pretty huge over the, like, range vary. And there are parts to the kitchen that really feel very witchy, like at one level they’re stirring this big pot as a result of they’re making some sort of spell as a result of they’re attempting to banish this unhealthy spirit. And there’s simply numerous issues that really feel like, not like a industrial kitchen, however like an old-timey kitchen the place perhaps they used to entertain or they didn’t have the expertise that we’ve now. You already know, prefer it looks like a really mixture of excessive, and low, like previous homes have.
Elsie: I believe it feels very very like a Nineteen Nineties Martha Stewart slash Ingar kitchen. Prefer it’s practical, nevertheless it’s additionally skilled.
Emma: Nevertheless it nonetheless feels cozy and like in a house, not like a restaurant. ’trigger there’s not like a ton of chrome steel all over the place or something like that. It’s not the Jurassic Park kitchen.
Elsie: No, it’s a good looking, cozy kitchen with an island, I believe has numerous cabinetry and it has sort of this cool, I don’t know what you name it, like an arched opening from the eating room to the kitchen that’s sort of identical to a, I don’t know, watch while you’re watching the film, it’s an ornamental function that’s sort of like built-in with the cabinetry. That’s actually fairly, and it’s very distinctive. I believe it might be an incredible reproduction kitchen. Someplace on the planet, there’s an individual whose transform would match this completely.
Emma: Yeah, after which different elements of the home, different than simply the gorgeous kitchen, they’ve this like, attic room that’s the place I believe each ladies keep every time like, Jillian comes again to city. And it simply has bedrooms in there, like beds in there. Nevertheless it appears like, sort of like an open attic. So it nearly feels in a approach like unfinished, nevertheless it additionally feels very cozy in the best way of like there are rugs and there’s sort of like I believe some like sort of these wall tapestries are sort of like hung. So it’s a really like, once more, I really feel like the home feels very lived in. These set designers did such an incredible job. It felt like an actual place, nevertheless it additionally didn’t really feel too polished. It didn’t really feel like, oh yeah, this can be a bed room and it’s an ideal catalog bed room. It’s like, it doesn’t really feel like that in any respect.
Elsie: It feels very lived in and like an actual home. I agree. Okay, a few of my favourite moments of the home. I imply, I like the backyard. I like that it has a picket fence proper by the ocean. Trigger that’s simply very distinctive, and it matches this home completely. Okay, so a giant factor from the books is there’s a portrait of Maria Owens on the stairway and when you find yourself watching the film, you’ll see there’s like a ton of witch portraits on the stairways, which is tremendous cool. I like previous portraits and I believe it’s simply such a cool assortment. Each previous house ought to have some Victorian portraits.
Emma: I imply, one can dream. Sure, completely. Yeah. Bonus factors if it’s family. However, you already know, I’ll take something.
Elsie: And I clearly just like the greenhouse is all the pieces. It’s like essentially the most attractive Harry Potter little greenhouse.
Emma: Greenhouses are all the time, I believe, very photogenic trying as a result of they often have a lot glass and a lot gentle. So I really feel like they’re all the time an incredible place for like a setting in a film or in a photograph as a result of they only are actually fairly. One of many sort of characters on this film is a person who’s been half killed, however then they sort of half convey him again to life. It’s magic gone awry, however he kind of like turns into a spirit. He sort of embodies numerous completely different parts, together with this kind of rosebush that retains rising up they usually like minimize it again and minimize it again, nevertheless it’s nonetheless rising up. And I don’t know this film to me just like the Rose Bush is nearly like a personality within the film the place it’s like menacing, but additionally sort of stunning, which I believe was sort of what that man was like when he was alive as a result of she was in love with him, however he was an ass and beat her. Yeah, his boots sort of come up out of the bottom after they bury him.
Elsie: He gained’t keep useless.
Emma: Ugh. Simply gained’t depart you alone.
Elsie: Eager to hang-out you. My favourite factor from the e-book that I wish to make this for the weblog is that it’s like in all of the books, quite a bit, I don’t know if it’s within the film, is the chocolate tipsy cake. Have you ever heard of that?
Emma: Yeah. I Googled it instantly after trigger I used to be like, and it’s actually not like a well-known recipe.
Elsie: I believe it’s a film recipe as a result of rum cake is a well-known recipe. That is particularly a chocolate cake with a ton of rum in it. So it’s its personal class of cake I believe and I used to be considering I wish to make one perhaps for Thanksgiving or for Christmas or like make it a household custom in our household as a result of I believe it’s so cute.
Emma: Perhaps we must always have a cocktail party that’s like all film meals and drinks. You already know what I imply? That may be enjoyable, proper? Come on. And we might have like, you already know, some pictures up or posters up of the completely different films or I don’t know. However this could clearly be the dessert.
Elsie: An thought is born. That may be a nice occasion thought. I prefer it.
Emma: A film banquet.
Elsie: After which additionally within the film she has a store, proper? So it’s a comfy little store. And it sort of jogs my memory of David Rose’s, Schitt’s Creek store, you already know?
Emma: It does. Proper? I really feel like he noticed the film, his character, and was like, that’s what this city wants.
Elsie: I imply I might watch this film each autumn till I die, and I most likely will.
Emma: The city is de facto cute, too. And I don’t know if it’s an actual city, I assume it most likely is. They most likely didn’t construct the entire city. Nevertheless it appears very small city, however actually cute. And it feels very coastal, and really, like, northeast, despite the fact that I’m not an professional on the northeast. Oh, and in addition, we didn’t point out this about the home, on the highest of their roof they’ve this like sort of black fencing, it’s like sort of spiky trying, and on the finish of the film they’re all dressed as witches, like with the witch hats, basic witch trying, they usually all bounce off and fly. However they sort of simply float down, nevertheless it’s positively like they’re flying as a result of they’re actually floating off of a roof. And it’s simply actually cute as a result of the fencing there may be like very menacing trying, nevertheless it’s this type of cute second the place the city has accepted them as witches within the film. That’s most likely why witch tales are so good is simply because it’s like, what the best technique to spotlight prejudice, which is like, you already know, current in sort of like all of our lives on a regular basis. Nevertheless it’s like however in a extra enjoyable approach.
Elsie: Yeah, I believe numerous instances, which is the lore of it or no matter, you already know, the fantasy of it’s used to spotlight the facility of like feminine friendships and counting on people who find themselves not your romantic companion, however they’re your companion in different methods. The sisters and numerous fantasy books, like not simply this one, however many different, you already know, fables about them is that they will’t fall in love, their husbands all the time die. Not each single e-book has this, however there are quite a bit the place that’s kind of a factor. So it makes it in order that the witches must depend on one another. That all the time must be their household as a result of they’re probably not capable of maintain romantic companions. Not that each witch is straight, however in numerous books that I’ve learn, that’s been the lore prior to now. And yeah, I believe that’s sort of an fascinating machine to make use of, and I believe it makes you study love and household another way, which I like. I believe it’s a very good train.
Emma: So some other cozy inspiration? I stated the chocolate tipsy cake and midnight margaritas are for positive the greenhouse. We had finished the ant’s outfits, within the film are fairly epic. It’s all the pieces you need in an ant.
Elsie: It truly is. I’m like, at what age ought to we begin dressing like this? Fairly quickly, proper? Like 50? I don’t know.
Emma: I believe it simply appears cozy too. It’s like a distinct model of yoga pants. It’s bought a greater model. A number of scarves. A number of huge solar hats, which I’m like, yeah, you don’t need the solar while you’re exterior within the backyard all day.
Elsie: It’s great. I like how the top of the e-book, Sensible Magic, is the very same monologue that the film opens with, the place she says the factor about like, rising rosemary and throwing salt. It’s so cute. It’s lovely.
Emma: Yeah, as a result of I really feel like too, that is within the e-book as properly, however they’re sort of attempting to flee their id which is like, I believe it sort of haunts them as Youngsters as a result of their city doesn’t settle for them. They get picked on as a result of they’re which is or as a result of they’re completely different within the e-book. I believe it’s much less express that they’re what are than within the film. After which by the top, it’s like they’ve discovered that individuals have accepted them. They’ve come collectively and finished magic with them to banish that abusive boyfriend. And I believe they’ve additionally come to simply accept themselves and sort of have a good time this a part of themselves that they used to detest, which I additionally assume, once more is a superb machine for us to sort of study accepting the issues about us that scare us, that make us completely different that may scare different folks. And it really may be, these may be our strengths. These may be like a number of the most stunning elements of ourselves, you already know, nevertheless it takes typically time and life and circumstances to assist us see that. Yeah, and that’s what occurs on this story.
Elsie: Being regular is boring, mom fucker.
Emma: Regular sucks. No, when you’re regular, that’s cool, however none of us actually are.
Elsie: Okay, so let’s do some trivia. Sensible magic trivia. So the primary one is all the home was a specifically constructed architectural shell that was torn down after filming. It was constructed on rented land and even the blossoms and the bushes are pretend fabricated from silk. I don’t wish to know, erasing that truth from my thoughts, by no means considering of it once more. It’s an actual home in my thoughts.
Emma: It does converse once more to the set designer’s expertise although, since you simply wish to dwell on this home. You wish to go to this place and it feels actual, like I don’t even keep in mind considering like, oh that appears pretend. That appears like a silk flower I actually don’t keep in mind I’ve seen this film quite a bit. So I’m like these set designers and just like the cinematographers and whoever else, you already know introduced this to life did an incredible job. So I’m such as you completely fooled me. I’m like on the planet and that is actual to me.
Elsie: Oh, wait, I ought to most likely say this. That is that sort of trivia, however the manufacturing designer’s title is Robin Standifer, and I learn this stunning little article from when the film first got here out, I believe, the place Alice Hoffman says that when she visited the units, she felt just like the set designer was a novelist simply as a lot as she was due to how a lot they introduced it to life. It was very stunning.
Emma: She might see she was storytelling her model of artwork. Yeah. That’s stunning. That’s a good looking factor to say about another person’s work. I additionally love the title Robin. I believe it’s an incredible title. For a boy or a woman. However, yeah. Okay, subsequent trivia. Aunt Frances and Aunt Jett incessantly put on clothes and kinds that had been fashionable within the early twentieth century, suggesting that they had been actually a lot older than they seem. The solid stated they felt supernatural parts of the home began to have an effect on them. Each the solid and crew claimed they heard supernatural noises whereas filming the coven scene on the finish of the movie. I really feel like this type of factor comes up quite a bit in films which can be about witches or the supernatural or horror films. I really feel like there’s all the time one thing that occurs on the set that’s like, properly, that was bizarre. You already know?
Elsie: I find it irresistible. I imply, it does sound like they had been filming at the very least the outside of the house in a really distant place. So I imply I might see it. Okay, so a giant half from the books is just like the black cleaning soap like they’re all the time making this black cleaning soap and utilizing it that like retains you trying younger. I would like it to be actual so unhealthy. I’m so mad. If anybody is aware of the place you should purchase some actual witch black cleaning soap, ship it to me for my Christmas reward. That’s the one factor I would like.
Emma: I imply, there may be black cleaning soap, however does it have magic? I don’t know.
Elsie: I don’t need charcoal, I would like magic. Like, there’s a distinction, proper? Anyway, I believe it’s actually cute, like, all of the stuff, however yeah, they’re sporting previous clothes as a result of they’re.
From that point or perhaps even like issues may very well be handed down. You understand how households like simply maintain issues just like the portraits in the home.
That’s true, too. I imply for the reason that home has been handed down via many generations then that additionally is smart. That, you already know, they sort of have a revolving wardrobe in there.
Emma: You’ve got our grandmother’s like a swimsuit from her honeymoon. There are issues that may final a very long time, however I do really feel like the garments they’re sporting them like quite a bit, you already know, like a marriage gown I really feel like is less complicated to move down as a result of it doesn’t get worn continually.
Elsie: For positive. Okay. After the film got here out, manufacturing bought a name from Barbra Streisand. Oh, I like Barbara, okay, who wished to purchase the home, don’t all of us? As a result of the home was constructed on parkland and had Native American heritage. No digging was allowed, which was the actual motive that the house was solely a shelf. This was additionally the explanation that the home, which was solely a set, was torn down as quickly as they completed filming. So initially, it’s a tragedy. However second of all, Barbara, you might have the money. Construct it. When you construct it, they are going to come. Like, I would like it to be actual so unhealthy. I’ll beg.
Emma: I assumed too, like, after I first learn this, that she was calling to be like, Why wasn’t I on this film?
Elsie: Actually, good query additionally.
Emma: May there be a 3rd aunt? I don’t know the way previous she would have been when this got here out. Perhaps she’d be simply one of many sisters. I don’t know.
Elsie: The aunts do have a brother. Okay, I desperately need them to make a sequel of Sensible Magic. One of many little women Emma identified was Evan Rachel Wooden or Evan Rachel Wooden.
Emma: She was then and he or she is now.
Elsie: And yeah, there’s a complete nother e-book. There’s a lot extra story for all of those characters. It could be superb if they’d make one other one quickly, earlier than later. Put that on my want listing, too, with numerous stuff.
Emma: Expensive universe, please, please, please. Yeah, I agree. For the ultimate scene with all of the townspeople on the Owens house, all the inhabitants of the city the place filming came about was invited to indicate up in costume and seem as townsfolk.
Elsie: I like that.
Emma: Yeah, I find it irresistible a lot.
Elsie: That’s the dream.
Emma: Yeah, plus, like, are you able to think about getting some name that’s like, Hey, we’re filming a film round right here with Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock. If you wish to present up dressed for Halloween, come on down. I’d be like, sure, what time will we should be there?
Elsie: Yeah. Emma has been further earlier than in actual films and TV exhibits and stuff. I’ve by no means finished it and I’ve a chip on my shoulder about it and I wish to do it so unhealthy. Like so unhealthy. Particularly Hocus Pocus 3.
Emma: Oh yeah. I really feel like although, numerous instances while you’re doing it while you dwell there, you don’t get to be in films that you simply’re essentially enthusiastic about. It’s simply random, so it’s such as you may get to be in one thing that you simply’re excited to observe again and again, however you may simply be in, who is aware of? You already know? Anyway, that might’ve been enjoyable, and that’s actually cute.
Elsie: Yeah, I do know. It’s not the purpose of being an additional.
Emma: Properly, hopefully, they paid them, however I imply, no matter. I don’t actually know what occurred with that.
Elsie: Okay. The black canine that adopted Sally’s husband, Michael, to the day of his loss of life, was no accident, based on a number of cultural traditions, primarily these of the British Isles and Latin America, an indication of impending loss of life can take the type of black dots. In addition they have, within the books, a loss of life watch beetle.
Emma: That’s within the films, for positive.
Elsie: It’s superior. It’s like all the time coming round, like one week earlier than you die, making a bunch of noise.
Emma: Which in a approach, there is part of me that’s like, You already know, I wouldn’t thoughts getting a heads up the week that I used to be gonna die. I additionally sort of wouldn’t thoughts simply figuring out typically.
Elsie: That’s true.
Emma: As a result of then I really feel like you would plan so properly.
Elsie: It doesn’t inform you who it’s for within the house although, which is sort of worrying.
Emma: Yeah, since you’d be like, is it my child?
Elsie: As a result of it’s not all the time apparent.
Emma: Yeah, if somebody was sick, you’d most likely assume, oh, okay, it’s most likely them. But when like nobody’s sick, you’d be like, oh no, somebody’s about to die. I don’t know who it’s.
Elsie: I’m glad they’re not actual.
Emma: Oh, I had a factor for this. So we’re score the film, and I used to be like, let’s charge it from zero to 5 whipped cream cans.
Elsie: What’s, wait, what’s that from?
Emma: Properly, within the film, they, once they’re attempting to convey the man again to life as a result of they’ve by accident killed him, they must make, draw a star on his chest. That’s a part of the spell. And so they’re like, oh, what will we use? What will we use? And so they’re identical to trying round within the kitchen they usually simply pull out a whipped cream can. Spray this with the star on it. After which she, like, takes a chunk of it as a result of she’s simply hungry.
Elsie: Oh my gosh.
Emma: It’s a humorous scene. I really feel like there’s numerous memes on the market now that’s like, you already know, everybody talks about woman dinner, which simply means, like, a bunch of snacks, I assume. And it’s like, right here’s a woman dinner, and it simply exhibits a photograph of them with the whipped cream they usually’re doing their spell, you already know? Anyway.
Elsie: That’s cute. Okay. 5 for positive.
Emma: Yeah. 5 – 6. Love this film a lot. Okay, properly, let’s speak concerning the e-book Sensible Magic. We’ve talked about it a little bit bit all through this episode, however now we’ll dive a little bit deeper into simply the e-book itself. And you may speak about the entire sequence when you like, as a result of I do know you simply learn all of them and it most likely is tough to maintain them separate when you’ve seen the entire, you already know, story unfold.
Elsie: Yeah. Okay. Let me clarify what all of them are and what the premises are. One of many major questions that I’ve heard folks ask is like, what order is it finest to learn them in? So now that I’m an skilled skilled, I’ll inform you. I truthfully assume they are often learn in any order. I don’t assume it issues. It’s simply not that kind of factor. There aren’t any spoilers. And the order I learn them in was from prequel one, prequel two, Sensible Magic, after which the sequel, which needs to be the right order, however I sort of, ultimately, I used to be like, it wouldn’t, it wouldn’t have mattered in any respect. Anyway, okay, so the prequel one known as Magic Lesson, and it’s the story of Maria Owen, so the like, authentic witch who makes the curse that nobody within the Owens household may be in love, or her lover is doomed.
Emma: She’s the one who nearly will get hanged, however then the rope breaks, they usually simply banish her.
Elsie: Sure. So that’s her story, after which prequel two, It’s referred to as The Guidelines of Magic, and it’s just about the aunt’s origin story, they usually have a brother, a magical brother. It’s like, very cute homosexual brother, very lovable character, and, yeah, it’s actually good, I’d say it was certainly one of my high, after which Sensible Magic, everyone knows, is the principle e-book, what the film is known as after. After which the sequel known as The Guide of Magic. And most of the people in my DMS stated that that’s the easiest one. I sort of truthfully thought they had been all fairly equal. I assumed they had been all good. I’d say just like the worst one, perhaps it was sensible magic, despite the fact that it’s so good. It was most likely simply because it was the primary one and the opposite ones have far more historical past and crossover and stuff, which is sort of good. However yeah, they’re all winners.
Emma: I’ve solely learn Sensible Magic. I’ve learn different Alice Hoffman books, however nothing else from the sequence. So yeah, the opposite Alice Hoffman I’ve learn is Right here on Earth, which was actually good. Nevertheless it was a very long time in the past that I learn it. However yeah, she’s a type of authors who’s written quite a bit and I really feel like her stuff is usually well-known or on a bestseller or it’ll be in like Oprah’s e-book membership or issues like that. So she’s fairly well-known and I do assume her writing is de facto pretty. I beloved Sensible Magic. I listened to it as an audiobook and it was a delight for these days that I used to be listening to it. It’s not tremendous lengthy both. I wish to say it was a reasonably fast, hearken to a reasonably fast learn, and so far as like when you’ve seen the film and also you’re like, will I nonetheless benefit from the e-book? I do assume it’s fairly completely different so far as the issues they deal with and it’s additionally clearly quite a bit longer, you might have much more time to get to know characters and to see issues occur in a e-book versus a film. They’ve a lot much less time to inform you a narrative in a film. And I simply really feel like they deal with various things. There’s much more about Sally’s youngsters within the e-book like what they’re as much as and what their life is like. And I actually loved attending to be taught extra about them as a result of they’re not large characters within the films. And what else? I additionally really feel like, okay, so this, I wish to know what you concentrate on this. I really feel like within the e-book, and I didn’t learn the entire story, so simply Sensible Magic, I really feel prefer it’s not as express because the film about magic. I really feel such as you do know that they’re witches and you already know that they do magic and also you get that the city is sort of uncomfortable with them because of this, however in addition they come to them with their love issues as a result of the ants sort of have the aspect enterprise the place they are going to assist you to along with your love issues via magic. It’s in there, however I felt like within the e-book, it’s rather more like, nearly like how folks speak about important oils. Prefer it’s simply rather more like myths and like, what do they name them? Like previous wives’ tales or like that kind of like, Oh, I went to the physician and that didn’t work. So now I’m going to ask my grandma for what spices she would put in her soup. You already know what I imply? Like, it’s extra like that sort of vibe. It’s not fairly like Harry Potter. I’m going to solid a spell with a wand. Like I don’t really feel like that occurs within the e-book as a lot in any respect.
Elsie: Yeah, I’d positively agree with that. I believe it’s as a result of the ants are like legit witches. And Sally and Jillian are extra like, Sally is denying, like, her place as a witch, she’s sort of like, I’d relatively be regular, and Jillian is like, not discovering her energy but. So I believe that that’s most likely a part of it, however I like that, I like that they’re not identical to merely, you already know, abracadabra, I believe it’s very nice. Like a number of human tales, they’re positively consolation reads. We had been speaking about Sally’s love curiosity, the one which occurs with, like, the police or the detective man within the film, how she was saying by the top of, this can be a spoiler, huge time.
Emma: Yeah, I believe it’s okay. It’s been a very long time.
Elsie: She was like saying, you already know, they had been sort of simply attending to know one another. And I used to be like, okay, properly, I hate to inform you this, however within the subsequent e-book after that, he’s identical to immediately useless. Like Alice Hoffman isn’t into love scenes. Like these intercourse scenes are so tiny. There’s nothing, it’s not romantic. It’s truthfully extra concerning the sisters and the aunts and the feminine relationship with the daughters, which I like too. In order that’s positively her vibe.
Emma: Yeah, I don’t really feel like I count on romance from Alice Hoffman. It’s simply not what she’s writing.
Elsie: On the newer witch books, you sort of count on it to all the time be identical to a primary romantic like enemies to lovers with witches, and that is very completely different from that. So I assume that’s what I’m attempting to say is like, I recognize how completely different it’s. I’ve been attempting to learn each e-book I can get my fingers on for 2 years and numerous them are usually not that enjoyable high for me. Fairly boring and this was like very fascinating. It’s its personal complete world You’ll be able to go down. I’m positively an excellent fan now I purchased pink sneakers. I purchased I planted a magnolia tree in my yard good, and I’m positively making the chocolate tipsy muffins.
Emma: Oh yeah, we’re gonna have the banquet. Yeah, I believe too, I just like the remedy of magic within the e-book quite a bit as a result of I believe it feels extra like actual life. As a result of while you do learn a witch e-book or a magical e-book the place you’ll be able to solid spells with a wand and all the pieces’s mounted, It sort of makes it, I believe, more durable, at the very least for the creator, to create pressure. Since you’re like, why don’t you simply wave your wand? Whereas, on this e-book, I really feel like Alice Hoffman made a world the place magic can’t do all the pieces. In reality, it may possibly do plenty of fairly fantastical issues, however there’s quite a bit it may possibly’t do. And particularly for the characters who’re denied.
Elsie: And typically it messes issues up worse. And it may possibly’t be modified again. So, like, numerous instances that’s what the spells find yourself doing. Yeah. It’s worse than initially.
Emma: They’ve penalties and trade-offs, which once more, feels very very like life, you already know? Like, you make a selection, and also you get one thing that you simply wished, and one thing else occurs that you simply didn’t essentially need, however that’s simply sort of, you already know, the alternatives that you’ve got. So, yeah, I believe it’s actually fairly. And, yeah, as we had been speaking about earlier, there’s not numerous, romantic sexual love. It’s much more about ladies counting on one another, which I believe is de facto enjoyable and makes you concentrate on household another way and it’s simply actually stunning. It made me assume quite a bit about you and like us getting older collectively, and the way a lot I’ve relied on you in my life to this point and the way a lot I’ll most likely proceed to depend on you, and clearly we don’t have a romantic love, we’ve a sister love, you already know, we’re sisters. And I believe different folks have that with a very good pal. You don’t must be sisters, however we’re. And yeah, I simply assume that sort of love is particular as a result of it’s one thing that I find out about. It’s one thing from my life. So after I see it in literature or films, I assume I really feel sort of seen and it makes me really feel grateful for the issues that I’ve in my life, such as you.
Elsie: Aww. Love you.
Emma: I want I might do magic, however alas.
Elsie: Me too. Perhaps sooner or later.
Emma: You by no means know.
Elsie: Yeah. Okay. Properly, let’s go now to our spooky joke and a truth with Nova.
Elsie: Hey Nova, what do you might have for us this week?
Nova: I’ve a meditation.
Elsie: What sort of meditation?
Nova:A halloween spooky meditation.
Elsie: Oh, good. Okay, I’m closing my eyes.
Nova: Think about you had been strolling down a avenue in search of sweet. Then all of the sudden, come to a spooky home. The door creaks open. You go inside. Then you definately meet a cheerful skeleton. After which, you say hello, you stroll on. Then you definately see a lightweight flash. You go into the room and also you see a witch making spells. You say, wow, perhaps I might strive. And so that you strive. And you then go on to the highest, to the balcony, and you may see all the pieces. Then you definately spot a ghost needing assist. You go and assist him. He says thanks. Then you definately see a vampire. He says greetings. Hi there. Then you definately keep for a couple of minutes, speaking and consuming, and having a enjoyable time. However then, you see it’s time to go. So that you hop onto a bus and it takes you house. Then you definately noticed one thing. You noticed that the witch, the ghost, and all of your different associates gave you a gift. You had been fast to seize it. Then you definately confirmed your mother and pop. They stated wow. After which they stated time for mattress. And so that you hop in mattress and dream about your mates. Now open your eyes and earlier than it’s finished, take deep breaths in, and deep breaths out, and really feel how your physique feels. Do you are feeling good? Do you are feeling relaxed? Okay. Bye!
Elsie: We hope you loved this episode. Please proceed to ship us your consolation rewatches. We shall be again once more subsequent week with my Halloween favourite film, Rosemary’s Child. It was Emma’s first time to observe it, so yeah, we’ll see you subsequent week.
