Episode #197: All Issues Books (Deep Dive)


This week, we’re deep diving into all issues books – from our favourite sequence to what bookshelves we use.

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Present Notes:

Favourite e book sequence:

Emma:

Harry Potter by J.Ok. Rowling

A Court docket of Thorn and Roses by Sarah J. Maas

His Darkish Supplies by Philip Pullman

The Sunday Philosophy Membership by Alexander McCall Smith

The Wallflower by Lisa Kleypas

Elsie:

Harry Potter by J. Ok. Rowling

Sensible Magic by Alice Hoffman

The Summer season I Turned Fairly by Jenny Han

Favourite image books for teenagers:

Emma:

Good Evening, Baboon! by Sabrina Moyle

Hug Machine by Scott Campbell

Pleasure Cho books

Elsie:

The Great Issues You Will Do by Emily Martin

Christian Robinson books

Take a look at our e book roundups on childhoodmagic.com

Favourite self-help books:

Elsie:

On Writing by Stephen King

Huge Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert

The Energy of Moments by Dan and Chip Heath

The Artwork of Making Recollections by Meik Wiking

Emma:

On Writing by Stephen King

The Artist’s Means by Julia Cameron

Atomic Habits by James Clear

The Dance of the Dissident Daughter by Sue Monk Kidd

Hearken to epiosde #79: Emma’s Evangelical Upbringing Story

Hearken to episode #75: Elsie’s Evangelical Upbringing Story

Favourite e book of all time:

Elsie:

The Evening Circus by Erin Morgenstern

The Wishing Recreation by Meg Shaffer

The Handmaid’

The Handmaid’s Story by Margaret Atwood

Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel

Challenge Hail Mary by Andy Weir

Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin

Fairytale by Stephen King

Emma:

The Poison Wooden Bible by Barbara Kingsolver

By no means Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro

How have you learnt the suitable type bookshelf in your house?

-Maintain to the period or type of your property

-Fear about scale above every little thing else

Do you suggest {custom} bookshelves or do you buy them?

-Will depend on your finances, {custom} is dearer

-You may strive the IKEA hack

What manufacturers are one of the best for premade bookshelves?

-For a contemporary look: CB2 White Leaning Bookshelves

-For a classic look: take a look at Rachel Martino’s Instagram

What do you set in cabinetry below bookshelves?

-Belongings you don’t use typically

-Children’ toys to allow them to attain them simply

-Issues which are particular to you however not visually interesting

-Board video games or puzzles

How you can paint/replace an previous bookshelf?

Take a look at the Greatest Paint for Kitchen Cupboards

Right here is the hyperlink to our bookshelf excursions

Right here is the hyperlink to the Hidden Library

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Episode 197 Transcript:

Emma: You’re listening to The Stunning Mess Podcast, your cozy consolation hear, and this week we’re deep diving into all issues books from our favourite sequence to what bookshelves we love to make use of.

Elsie: I really like this topic. I’m so excited for this episode. So earlier than we leap into it, would you wanna give any updates about your e book that you just’ve written?

Emma: Sure. So I lovingly name it my homicide e book, however the working title is Handmade Homicide, and I’ve talked about it many occasions on this podcast, however if you happen to’re new, it’s a thriller. So my replace is I’ve determined to self-publish the e book as a result of primarily I’ve gotten uninterested in ready, which is possibly not one of the best cause, however I used to be explaining this to Elsie, so I’ll inform all of you and it’s a bit of bit woo-woo, however I really feel such as you’ll go together with me as a result of we do loads of woo with stuff on this podcast. So that is the second work of fiction that I’ve written. So I’ve written two full novels and I sort of have an concept for the subsequent one. I actually simply wish to be a fiction author. I need that to be part of my life, a part of my profession. I don’t essentially have large objectives round like what number of books I wanna publish and the way a lot cash I wanna make from them. I don’t actually have concrete concepts round that, however I do wanna be a fiction author. I simply really feel that it’s a dream of mine and I feel the way in which to change into an ideal author is to do it, to be writing rather a lot and writing on a regular basis. I sort of like have an concept for my subsequent e book and I’ve been interested by all of it summer time and I simply really feel a bit of bit blocked with it. Not likely like author’s block, however extra like, I really feel just like the universe simply isn’t giving me something.

Elsie: I can summarize this. She feels that she must have her child earlier than she will be able to get pregnant with one other child. 

Emma: That’s what I’m feeling. And so, I feel I’ve to publish this present one, Handmade Homicide. So the quickest approach to do this is to self-publish, and in order that’s what I’m gonna do. The extra I began trying into it, I’m really sort of getting actually enthusiastic about it. I’ve lined up a designer to assist me with the duvet, a designer to assist me with laying it out in order that it seems to be proper for like e-readers and if you happen to order it on Amazon, ’trigger that’s the place it’s gonna be accessible, a minimum of at first. And I’ve lined up a proofreader who may give me extra than simply spell verify. So I’m actually excited, I don’t know, to do all this stuff. It’s much more work to self-publish and I used to be sort of eager to skip a few of that and simply do the enjoyable half, which is the writing. However now I’m entering into it and I’m like, okay it’s sort of enjoyable to love construct a venture from nothing. I imply, in so some ways. It feels rather a lot like what we’ve at all times executed in our careers, which is rather like making it ourselves and seeing the way it goes. In order that’s what I’m doing with this e book. So I’m very enthusiastic about it. I. Am hoping that it might come out in October. I don’t know if it’s going to. 

Elsie: Oh my gosh, that’s quickly. 

Emma: That’s once I would love, it as a result of it’s sort of a creepy e book, and so clearly that’s a spooky season, however we’ll see. I don’t know. You already know, I can’t rush folks, if I don’t give them time to provide me good edits or lay issues out, it’s not likely honest, you realize? So I might love for that to occur. I’m going to purpose for it. It could, it could not, no matter, however I feel it’s going to come out this 12 months. I really feel fairly assured about that. I additionally am trying into having an audio model as a result of I really like audiobooks that I really feel much less certain of when that may come out. I don’t suppose it’s going to come out on the similar time, sadly. However I do suppose it’s going to occur. ’trigger it’s actually necessary to me. I hearken to so many books on audio, and I additionally simply suppose it makes it extra accessible to extra folks. 

Elsie: You must make an audiobook. 

Emma: Yeah. So I’m gonna look into that and determine that out and pay the cash to do it. And nonetheless, it really works. I don’t know. I’ll determine it out, however it most likely received’t come out on the similar time simply because I’m self-publishing and I’m figuring this all out for the primary time. However I’m actually enthusiastic about it and I’m sort of engaged on some cowl designs with my designer, and yeah, simply a number of the enjoyable stuff. I’m getting loads of my editorial edits completed up from my first readers, and yeah, I’m simply actually excited for it to be out on the planet and to see what folks consider it. It’s a really bizarre e book, and I feel some folks will like it. Some folks will hate it. To me, the worst response is that if folks don’t care in any respect, like in the event that they’re like, ehh not was fantastic.

Elsie: They’re not gonna reply that approach. I’ve learn the e book now, so I can inform them like a tiny little teaser if you need. I cherished it. I feel that it is vitally polarizing. It’s a kind of books the place you’re going to have a robust response and also you’re going to both like it or hate it. That’s simply the kind of factor that it’s. And I feel even the premise while you learn the premise, you’ll know if it’s like a e book that you could possibly learn or not prefer it loads of set off warnings and is sort of like a extreme e book. It’s superb. I actually loved it. The very best factor about it’s it’s so totally different if you happen to’re in a studying rut, which I’ve been this 12 months, the place I really feel like, you realize, I’m studying loads of issues that really feel like the identical factor time and again, which is not any fault to the books, however possibly it’s similar to my alternatives. However you realize, I used to be getting a bit of bit bored. This e book is like a kind of books that you’ll by no means discover one other one prefer it. It’s very distinctive and unique. So, yeah, I’ll discuss extra about it after we get nearer in, when folks can order it and stuff. However I’m very excited for it to be out on the planet too. And I like your drive to similar to make this occur ’trigger I feel if I had been you, I might nonetheless be like ready for, you realize, a writer or an editor, like no matter issues. That is very courageous. I feel it’s very courageous and it’s a really cool transfer. So I’m excited. 

Emma: Yeah. I used to be speaking to my e book membership final night time about it, my associates, and I used to be like, in a approach, I really feel like I’m simply taking an opportunity for future Emma. For like 50-year-old Emma’s nonetheless writing ’trigger I really feel like what I have to do now is rather like, hold going and push ahead. I feel that there might be some individuals who take my e book much less significantly as a result of it’s self-published. I feel some readers have that view of self-published books that it’s much less respectable, and I feel that’s fantastic, I don’t care. You’re feeling nonetheless you wanna really feel. 50-year-old, Emma needs to be a author, and proper now I’m 37, so I’m pushing ahead as a result of I’m gonna hold writing and dealing for her, and I can simply really feel it. The universe isn’t gonna gimme my subsequent child till I delivery this one, so I’m doing it. That’s the place I’m at with that. 

Elsie: Yeah. Effectively, I simply know proper now that everybody listening is cheering you on, and so excited to order it and skim it. And see what the duvet’s gonna seem like. So it’s an thrilling time. 

Emma: I would let folks vote. I’m pondering I’ll put it on our Instagram sooner or later. The Stunning Mess Instagram, we’ll attempt to offer you a heads up, however simply so you realize, it’s going to most likely be on there in the future. I’m gonna let folks vote ’trigger I’ve like two very totally different concepts that I’m having my designer work on. So I actually don’t know which one folks would favor. I really feel like one in every of them is a bit more conventional and would match on the shelf higher, and one’s a bit of extra wacky and arty. However I feel it’s cool. 

Elsie: Yeah, that’s the one I like. 

Emma: Yeah, that’s the one I like too. I’m gonna put out the 2 designs and see, let folks vote and a minimum of get an concept from that.

Elsie: I really feel like if you happen to say thriller e book cowl, folks can like shut their eyes and already think about what it seems to be like, you realize? 

Emma: Yeah. For those who learn thrillers, you most likely are sort of used to the sort of moody vibe that they’ve, and one in every of ’em is sort of that vibe. So I’m like, okay, we’ll see if folks favor that, as a result of generally I really feel like I’m like attempting to be totally different, and I’m like, properly, I don’t wanna simply be totally different. If I ought to match on the shelf, then I wanna do this. So I’m simply gonna see, I’m simply gonna let folks vote. And see what that individuals say. 

Elsie: Effectively, plenty of books of their lifetime have a number of totally different covers that I really feel like that’s a real enchantment to totally different folks, which I really like when there’s like a stylish cowl after which like a boring ass cowl.

Emma: I do too. It’s additionally enjoyable when authors have their works in several languages and also you see the totally different covers for various nations. I at all times really feel like that’s actually enjoyable too. I don’t suppose that’ll occur for this e book. Like I stated I’m self-publishing, however I simply suppose it’s enjoyable to see. So, books, books, books. Shifting on from my e book. Let’s discuss books usually and deep dive.

Elsie: Yeah. I’m so excited for this episode. I really like the topic and I feel it’s, it’s simply so thrilling to speak by way of all of our favorites. 

Emma: Sure. So these questions are from Kand Crocker. And she or he’s despatched 4. So we’re gonna undergo every of those 4, so it’s like favourite various kinds of books. So first up is my favourite e book sequence and I really wrote down 4 totally different sequence. I’m sorry. 

Elsie: No, that is fantastic. Say yours first and I’m certain we each put Harry Potter, however yeah, go forward. 

Emma: So clearly Harry Potter is on the record and in addition A Court docket of Thorns and Roses which is the horny fairy e book that we’re at all times speaking about or have talked about. So these two are positively on the record. I really like these, we might discuss ’em endlessly, however I really feel like in loads of methods, if you happen to’re a reader, there’s no want you’ve most likely learn each of these if you happen to like fantasy.

Elsie: There’s actually no want to clarify what Harry Potter is.

Emma: There actually isn’t. It’s so well-known.

Elsie: It’s magical. I imply, I’ll simply say, I like can’t wait to learn with my children. It’s most likely my primary parenting factor that I’m trying ahead to, and I’m attempting to attend a pair extra years till they’re each at an age the place we are able to do it as a threesome. However for the reason that youngest, one’s 5. Inform me, okay you guys can write in and inform me what you suppose is the minimal age for beginning the Harry Potter sequence. For those who’re gonna learn the entire thing to your children, as a result of I’m curious. I’ve heard folks say 10, and that’s simply so I can’t wait that lengthy. That will be like, that might be 5 years from now. So it’s not gonna be 10, however what’s the minimal age? Sorry for interrupting you a lot.

Emma: No, no, you’re good. So the opposite two sequence one is, oh, really I’ve 5 on right here, rattling. So the opposite three sequence one is one other fantasy like Harry Potter. For those who like Harry Potter, I feel you’ll love this. And it’s the His Darkish Supplies sequence. Lots of people know of it as Golden Compass which is the primary e book within the sequence. It’s additionally generally titled Northern Lights. I really feel like they both modified it, or it was once Northern Lights.

Elsie: I haven’t learn these. 

Emma: Oh, it’s essential to. They’re so good. So I really like that creator Philip Pullman usually. He has a bunch of different books exterior of the His Darkish Supplies sequence. I feel the one which I’m at the moment studying is known as The Sandman or Sand One thing. His darkish supplies are very a lot fantasy. It has children which are the primary protagonist, the heroes of the books, and I feel my favourite of that trilogy is the third one, however, they’re all so good, and I truthfully suppose Golden Compass is nice, however it’s sort of laying the inspiration for the sequence. So hold going. So if you happen to solely learn Golden Compass and also you didn’t like it, I might give it one other go and hold going within the sequence as a result of I simply love that sequence. It’s actually stunning and simply actually imaginative and bizarre, so I like it. After which as extra of a common fiction, simply gratifying, I might sort of name this like a comfortable thriller kind factor. Is The Sunday Philosophy Membership, which is an entire sequence, and it’s by Alexander McCall Smith. He’s sort of well-known for the Girls Detective sequence too. So if you happen to’ve heard of that, it has a woman thinker who’s, she’s older and there simply tends to be loads of mysteries round her and she or he solves them. It’s simply enjoyable. Good. I simply actually prefer it. I feel I began studying it proper after faculty. I randomly noticed one on the library and it’s simply very cozy. Like she’s simply at all times modifying the philosophy journal that she edits for a dwelling and like making risotto and hanging out together with her associates after which fixing homicide mysteries. It’s actually enjoyable. It’s very cozy and enjoyable. After which if you happen to like Historic Romance, which I do, then I really like The Wallflower Collection by Lisa Klepis. It’s only a enjoyable sequence. It’s like 4 associates who wish to like be in society and get married. As I stated, it’s historic, so it’s like that’s the one choice for ladies as you get married. And it’s every of their love tales. Every of them is sort of like a fish out of water in several methods and isn’t certain in the event that they’re gonna meet the suitable individual or have a love match. And I don’t know if you happen to like Delight and Prejudice or if you happen to like interval peace-type love tales. These are very enjoyable and have fairly a little bit of intercourse, which is fairly enjoyable for love if you happen to ask me. And yeah, it’s a extremely enjoyable sequence. 

Elsie: Good. That sounds good. Okay, so I had Harry Potter, clearly. The one which I’ve been saving myself for is the Sensible Magic sequence, of which I feel there are three.

Emma: Alice Hoffman. 

Elsie: Sure. I’ve been saving it for fall. Have you ever learn any but? 

Emma: I’ve learn some Alice Hoffman, however not this sequence. 

Elsie: Okay. As quickly because it’s September, I’ll start my journey. I’m so excited to learn them, and it’s most likely one of the vital really useful e book sequence that our podcast listeners and other people on Instagram ship me. So I sort of know that I’ll prefer it as a result of so many individuals have really useful it. 

Emma: On a later episode we are going to announce our picks for the autumn. Possibly we should always put one within the e book membership. As a result of I wanna learn it too, as you’re saying it. I’m like, I really like Alice Hoffman. I wanna learn it. 

Elsie: After which, okay. I truthfully haven’t learn that many sequence. So that is simply the one I learn over the summer time, or really, it was final spring. I learn the three-book sequence for The Summer season I Turned Fairly, which can be an Amazon Prime present now. 

Emma: I simply received that e book. I used to be . I haven’t learn it but. 

Elsie: Okay, So I learn them, they’re all fairly quick. I listened to them as audiobooks and I feel that they had been all about 5 hours lengthy, which is fairly quick for an audiobook and I did it. 

Emma: I feel they’re geared towards youthful readers. Proper?

Elsie: It’s highschool romance. So it positively is YA for certain. Okay. So I’ll say what I preferred about it. So to begin with, It’s a nostalgic summer time home books, whereas like nearly the entire tales happen in a summer time home on the seashore home the place two households are becoming a member of collectively and spending the summer time collectively, and it’s lovely. It has loads of simply cozy sensory stuff like your Nancy Meyers bullshit stuff that we love in life. And, you realize, I take pleasure in a highschool romance. I’ve no qualms with that. So I actually love them. I learn them so quick. I prefer it, most likely the quickest I’ve learn any books. It was ’trigger I used to be establishing the home, but in addition they had been similar to so contagious and gratifying. So yeah, I positively suggest them. The creator’s known as Jenny Hahn, she’s very gifted. She has one other sequence out that I haven’t began but, however I positively suppose that it’s sort of a no brainer. For those who suppose you desire to a highschool romance, you’ll most likely prefer it ’trigger it’s simply good. 

Emma: Adore it. Yeah. I actually simply randomly simply purchased the primary in that sequence, so it’s humorous that I didn’t even know you’d learn them. So now I’m additional excited. 

Elsie: Actually? I believed I talked about it on a regular basis.

Emma: No, no. I really feel like I noticed that it was a sequence and I used to be like, oh, it’s a e book. I ought to learn the e book. I don’t know, I randomly purchased it. I don’t bear in mind the place I used to be. 

Elsie: You’re gonna like it. It’s enjoyable. It’s candy. Okay. So the subsequent one is our favourite image books for teenagers. So that you go first Em.

Emma: Okay. So I put a board e book on right here in addition to a e book with actual pages only for some selection. Good. So the primary e book that we learn to Oscar on a regular basis, and like anytime I’m going to a child bathe and we’re bringing a e book, that is the e book I often carry, and it’s Goodnight Baboon, which was gifted to me from one in every of our associates. It’s only a actually cute e book. It’s counting. It counts down. After which on the finish of the e book, it has a giant hug so that you may give your child a giant hug after which it’s like goodnight. You already know? So it’s like a superb bedtime e book. After which the opposite e book that Oscar’s obsessive about currently, really Nova and Mari gave him, and it’s The Hug Machine. For those who by no means learn it, it’s actually cute. It’s a bit of boy who’s like, I’m the hug machine and he hugs every little thing they usually similar to totally different components of the e book the place you possibly can like be hugging quick or sluggish, and Oscar similar to thinks it’s very humorous. And so he laughs rather a lot at that and it’s actually cute.

Elsie: Aw. Cute. Yeah, the hug machine is one in every of our favorites as properly. I like it, it’s cute. Yeah. In case you are within the period in your life the place you’re studying books in mattress to your children, it’s a must to get the hug machine if you happen to haven’t. 

Emma: It’s actually cute. So candy. It sort of has totally different illustrations too for a child’s e book. It’s not fairly as like a brilliant, colourful e book. It’s a bit of bit extra like, it’s stunning. Yeah. It’s actually cool. So it’s very enjoyable for the artwork too. 

Elsie: Sure. Talking of enjoyable for the artwork, one in every of our previous associates, Emily Martin, has a e book known as The Great Issues You Will Do. I feel it’s like a bestselling kids’s e book, so most likely like everybody had, I at all times see it on the bestsellers record now that I verify it. It’s superb although. It’s so candy. Have you ever learn that one? It’s so candy and like I’ve at all times cherished her illustrations and every little thing. So we’ve like puzzles and a few artwork prints for our partitions. And yeah, I positively hope she makes extra kids’s books sooner or later as a result of it’s the sweetest. I feel it’s sort of like my all-time favourite. After which aside from that, we actually like Christian Robinson. We have now nearly the entire books that he’s illustrated and he has additionally some books that he’s written and illustrated, and he did like Meghan Markle’s e book, he’s executed loads of like totally different books. And yeah, there’s this Penguins one which I’ve talked about earlier than that’s like, it doesn’t actually make sense. The story may be very minimal, however we simply like it. It’s so candy. Some books simply change into enjoyable to learn, like the way in which you learn them, you realize? Like turns into part of it. So anyway, I really like all of his books. He can’t go unsuitable. And the opposite factor that I feel is nice about his books is. I’ve children who like, aren’t very properly represented in books, and he finds a strategy to symbolize all totally different sorts of individuals and greater than another child’s books I’ve ever seen. So I positively suppose that that’s value including to your library, even when, only for that cause, plus they’re superb already.

Emma: One other one which we love is the Pleasure Selected sequence, which is like, be variety, be curious. She’s a designer if you happen to don’t know, and in addition a blogger. So that they’re stunning. They’ve essentially the most stunning colours. For those who had been like, I need some fairly issues on my child’s bookshelf that simply are thrilling to take a look at, they’re attractive. After which the message within the e book, sort of just like the titles, like one’s about being variety, one’s about being curious. These are all issues which are actually nice to be speaking about together with your child. We’re at all times speaking about curiosity with Oscar. Like I really like that you just’re curious, ’trigger he’s at that age the place he’s like, what’s diss? What’s diss? What’s diss? He’s simply very curious and observant and at all times attempting to inform him like, that’s an ideal factor to be, to be curious and observant and care about issues. Anyway, in order that’s additionally a extremely stunning kids’s e book sequence. You may verify them out. 

Elsie: And yeah, earlier than we transfer on, I wanna point out, we are going to hyperlink these within the present notes, however on our youngsters’s weblog, Childhood Magic, we’ve e book roundups for every season and main vacation. So I’ll positively hyperlink to our e book Roundups for sort of all of these. One of many large issues in our household is seasonal books. So I like to change them out. Our children every have these little ledge cabinets of their room the place it actually solely suits like 10 books on them. So it’s good to similar to hold switching them out rather a lot all year long. So yeah, the Halloween books are nice. Christmas books, we’ve posted about Hanukkah books. We have now a submit about 4th of July books, like sort of all the vacations, Easter. Yeah, I feel that’s such a enjoyable assortment as a result of you possibly can add one or two each single 12 months and you realize, clearly it’s sort of like decor too. It’s like after we get out our Christmas decorations, we get out the Christmas books and you realize, adorn like a bit of Christmas garland on the cabinets and it’s very candy. So anyway, I’ll hyperlink to all of these. It has the entire bangers, our very favorites in there and there’s rather a lot, so don’t really feel overwhelmed. I often purchase, possibly one or two a 12 months.

Emma: Yeah, I like that the lists are fairly large although, as a result of generally, like if you happen to’re an aunt or a grandma and also you’re purchasing for children that aren’t yours, you realize, they’re, you’re not the dad and mom or no matter, the guardians, it’s good to have an even bigger record as a result of then you definately sort of know you could find one thing that they don’t have already got. So if you happen to’re attempting to provide a e book alongside together with your vacation reward or in your Halloween or for an Easter basket or no matter, then that’s good, I feel. 

Elsie: Agree books are such nice items and it’s good to provide books which are a bit of extra on the like obscure aspect. 

Emma: The subsequent one is my favourite self-help e book.

Elsie: So for our favourite self-help books, we each put 4 and we solely put one e book that was the identical. So let’s discuss that one first. And that e book is on writing by Stephen King. Mm-hmm. I do know we’ve talked about it possibly too many occasions on the podcast however it is a signal if you happen to haven’t learn it but. I’ve learn it a few occasions, even over the previous few years. It’s simply so good, and I hold shopping for little, like additional copies and placing them within the free little libraries in our neighborhood. I need everybody to learn it. It’s like I might be nearly borderline preachy about this e book if I’ve to be ’trigger it was similar to actually useful to me. It gave me loads of encouragement and confidence and in addition similar to perspective about writing that it’s totally different from different books. It’s positively not boring. It’s positively a memoir, however on the similar time, you be taught a lot, which I felt is a good format to simply take pleasure in it. 

Emma: And I feel it’s best if you happen to’re wanting to write down however I might say it’s fairly like memoir-ish, as Elsie talked about. And I feel there’s loads of stuff in it that speaks to simply creativity and dealing in inventive fields usually. 

Elsie: Yeah, I agree with that, and we’re all writers indirectly.

Emma: Yeah. Normally storytellers. There are simply so many various ways in which you inform tales. It doesn’t must be written phrase. It’s a nice learn. It’s additionally an ideal hear as a result of Stephen King reads it, and he’s simply enjoyable to hearken to. He’s a cool man. 

Elsie: I’m in love with him. 

Emma: Yeah, just about.

Elsie: It’s what it’s. Okay, my subsequent one is Huge Magic. I simply needed to put it on right here. So we’ve talked about Huge Magic, I really feel like we’ve talked about it 1,000,000 occasions, however like if you happen to haven’t learn it, it’s a must to.

Emma: It’s quick. It’s a straightforward learn. 

Elsie: It’s quick. It is vitally inspiring. It’ll change the way in which you concentrate on creativity and concepts endlessly. So I really feel like if that’s not a gross sales pitch, I don’t know what’s. It’s positively for me, like each three or 4 years, a reread e book. It’s type of like a motivation. It’s like a pick-me if you happen to’re having a inventive lull. So I positively like it. It’s a basic and if you happen to haven’t learn it, you’re a prayer deal with.

Emma: One other inventive one which I had down was The Artist’s Means, which is a basic, it’s sort of older, I assume. Like there are totally different additions, you realize, ’trigger they’ve up to date it. It’s actually, actually nice. It’s a kind of books that has loads of workout routines. Like issues so that you can do. 

Elsie: It’s sort of a program greater than a e book. 

Emma: Yeah. So it’s not essentially one thing that like, oh, I’m about to go on a highway journey and I would like one thing inspiring. I’ll hearken to that. I wouldn’t suggest it in that approach ’trigger I really suppose it is best to undergo it and do the workout routines. So give your self time to let it’s extra of a course of and extra of a workbook than only a fast learn or something like that. However it’s actually useful and it’s for any sort of creativity, any sort of, I feel it’s actually only for life. So that you don’t must be an artist, quote unquote as a result of I feel we’re all artists personally, so I simply suppose like, if you happen to don’t consider your self that approach, this e book’s most likely nonetheless for you. It’s very enjoyable. It’s a basic. You’ve most likely even heard of it. It’s very well-known and it’s actually helpful and I like it. 

Elsie: Yeah, it’s positively stood the check of time. Okay, my subsequent one is the Energy of Moments. It was on our e book membership a few years in the past. I don’t suppose there’s one other e book fairly prefer it that I’ve ever learn. I feel it’s for certain a must-read variety for anybody who needs, who cares about making life extra memorable, whether or not it’s for, you realize, your children, your loved ones, or simply for your self for any cause. I sort of suppose everybody ought to learn it. I’m sort of saying that for each e book, huh? Yeah, I completely cherished it and the issues I discovered from it, I’m at all times recommending it to my husband on a regular basis. On a regular basis. On a regular basis. And I’m like pushing him, however he’s not gonna learn it, proper? So I’ve to similar to inform him little bits of it, you realize? 

Emma: Yeah. You’re like, I’m simply gonna learn it to you slowly over time telling you every little thing. 

Elsie: Precisely. That’s the plan. 

Emma: I imply, that’s not a foul plan. I feel it’ll work. Okay, my subsequent one is Atomic Habits, which I’m fairly certain we’ve talked about on the podcast earlier than too. It’s actually good. Simply has loads of suggestions for enhancing habits in your life and making issues extra environment friendly. Issues like behavior stacking, which you’ve by no means heard of, it’s like I don’t know, similar to doing two issues directly, like triggers issues. 

Elsie: It’s like taking your nutritional vitamins when you’re brushing your enamel so that you just at all times bear in mind, bear in mind to take your nutritional vitamins as a result of it’s subsequent to your toothbrush. It’s like issues like that. 

Emma: Yeah, so it’s sort of like little life hacks and simply has some issues like that. I wouldn’t essentially say it’s a gonna change your life and the way in which you concentrate on the world. Like, I don’t know, however I additionally really feel like generally I’m not wanting that, generally I’m simply wanting to love to make some enhancements.

Elsie: Yeah. I feel it’s very sensible and really micro. So it’s one thing that you should utilize instantly. It’s similar to a sensible, helpful e book. 

Emma: Yeah. I actually prefer it. That’s why I’m recommending it. However I additionally don’t love when folks overhype one thing and be like, you’ll change each behavior you’ve ever had. I’m like, properly, I don’t know. I discovered it actually helpful, actually preferred it. Generally I desire a e book that similar to is sensible and has fairly easy issues that enable you enhance, and that’s what it’s.

Elsie: I like James Clear his character. Like he has loads of private tales within the e book, which is one thing I like in self-help books as a result of I feel when there aren’t any private tales, they are often very boring. And the tales enable you to, you realize, like be taught as properly and like kinda retains it transferring for you too. My final one is the Artwork of Making Recollections. This e book taught me a lot about like what makes a memorable trip, and what makes a memorable vacation for the time in life that I’m in it was essential for me as a result of I sort of am at that time the place I’m feeling like, issues are going too quick. And in addition it’s like arduous for me to at all times be intentional on a regular basis. ’trigger generally I’m in survival mode. So this e book was very useful to love do these little issues that make, you realize, our Christmas memorable and our summer time trip and issues like that with out placing a lot strain on myself to love make the day excellent. Which is like 

Emma: Not gonna occur. 

Elsie: No, no, no. So yeah, I might positively suggest it. That’s most likely out of all these books, the one I’ve talked concerning the least. It’s superb. It’s very quick too, which I like a brief self-help e book. I’m to not lie, they don’t must be lengthy. Like get to the purpose. Proper. 

Emma: Yeah. I might take a protracted essay. I’m good with that. 

Elsie: Proper. So yeah, we are going to hyperlink all of this within the present notes. 

Emma: Yeah, there’ll be within the present notes, don’t fear. 

Elsie: You’ll find each single factor there. ’trigger it is a lot of books to undergo in a short time.

Emma: Yeah. And I’ve another on the self-help. Which that is, I learn this years and years in the past however it was very impactful for me on the time, and it’s known as The Dance of the Dissident Daughter by Sue Monk Kidd, and she or he’s additionally a fiction author. She wrote The Secret Lifetime of Bees, which is a good e book if you happen to’ve by no means learn it. I extremely suggest it. That’s simply fiction. However the Dance of the Dissident Daughter, I learn throughout a time the place I used to be sort of nonetheless going by way of, I imply, I assume you at all times are, however deconstructing my evangelical upbringing, particularly like the way it affected me as a girl and a number of the limitations that system positioned on me once I was in center college and highschool and the way in which that made me really feel, and we’ve some podcast episodes from years in the past about our evangelical upbringing. For those who wanna hearken to them, be happy. However for me, it was a really impactful e book that simply helped me really feel extra empowered as an individual, as a human, as a girl. And I believed it was actually useful e book, so I wished to say it. And I additionally similar to that creator, ’trigger she does additionally write fiction and it’s stunning. 

Elsie: Good. I haven’t learn that one. We’ll put that on my record for certain. 

Emma: Yeah, and an honorable point out, ’trigger it’s sort of loopy we didn’t point out any of her books, however is Brene Brown as a result of I really feel like I’ve learn all of her books and I don’t even know if I might suggest one over any of the opposite ones, however I’ll learn something she writes. I really like Rene Brown. She additionally has a podcast and it’s nice. 

Elsie: Yeah, I really like Brene Brown additionally. The subsequent class is favourite e book of all time. Which I feel is like such horrible strain.

Emma: I nonetheless put two, I simply couldn’t, after which I lower myself off. 

Elsie: I put seven.

Emma: Sure. Okay. As a result of I used to be like, oh, I shouldn’t put 1,000,000. I at all times do that. 

Elsie: I refuse to place much less prefer it’s not honest. Everybody’s gonna have a couple of favourite e book. I don’t know anybody who loves studying who has only one, just one favourite e book. I simply suppose that that’s merciless.

Emma: Yeah. Books aren’t like marriage. You must have rather a lot, it is best to have loads of books. Effectively, guess I’ll say my two after which I can piggyback on yours. ’trigger I wager you a few of yours are what I might’ve added, I wager you. However anyway, the 2 that I put down and I used to be like, if I’ve to select a favourite e book and I nonetheless can’t even slender it down, I’m simply gonna go together with these two, which is The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver, and I really like that creator. I really like Barbara. I’ve learn nearly all her books apart from her latest one. 

Elsie: The Demon Copperhead. 

Emma: Yeah, Demon Copperhead.

Elsie: I simply discovered that in a free little library, and I significantly acted like I struck gold. I used to be nearly screaming. I used to be so comfortable.

Emma: That may be a good discover as a result of it’s fairly new. So I haven’t learn that one, however I feel I’ve learn all her different books. I really like her books however my favourite is the Poisonwood Bible and I simply love that e book. I learn it so way back and I nonetheless give it some thought generally. So I really feel like that’s a mark of a superb e book. It’s left its mark on me, in order that, after which the opposite e book I put down is By no means Let Me Go. I additionally love that creator. I haven’t learn all his books but, however that is my favourite thus far. And it’s an ideal film too. However the e book is simply stunning and transferring, and it’s a sort of science fiction. However I might additionally say it’s very simply literary. And it’s not, however I really feel like generally when folks say literary, you’re like, oh, it’s gonna be boring. It’s not boring, it’s stunning and transferring and it’s about life, however it’s additionally science fiction. And yeah, once more, one other e book that I learn years and years in the past, like I had simply moved again to Missouri and I used to be dwelling at our dad and mom’ home and I used to be simply studying at night time after I completed working all day lengthy ’trigger we had been attempting to construct our enterprise. So it was like I’d work till like 10:00 PM after which I’d learn like one or two chapters until I crashed and this was the e book that I used to be studying and I simply seemed ahead to that a part of my day every single day as a result of this e book was so good and I cherished it. 

Elsie: Aww, that’s stunning.

Emma: Anyway, so these are two books that left their mark. 

Elsie: So my favourite books of all time, I sort of really feel like I’ve solely been studying fiction for 2 years, so that is my favourite books of all time within the final two years. 

Emma: You’ve been studying rather a lot although. 

Elsie: That’s true. It’s like all I do. So, my primary e book by no means to be overwhelmed, that I maintain each e book in opposition to is The Evening Circus. I simply love The Evening Circus. 

Emma: I might’ve put that on my record too if I knew we might do seven. That’s so good. 

Elsie: Yeah. Emma compelled me to learn it. I used to be simply studying each random e book I noticed at first, and it was similar to, they weren’t really useful. It was similar to, oh, a cute cowl. It might simply be like, It was so random. And she or he was like, it’s a must to learn this one. 

Emma: I feel we went to a Barnes Noble and I used to be being sort of a know-it-all strolling round being like, have you ever learn this one? Have you ever learn this one? However I used to be like, it’s a must to learn Evening Circus. You’ll like it. As a result of I do know you’ll love magic. 

Elsie: That e book was so magical. I’ve by no means discovered one other e book that scratches the itch fairly like that one. However each occasionally I discover a e book that sort of places me a bit of bit again in that area. And that could be a class that I’ll at all times love and at all times be in search of, is type of like life like magical fantasy, I assume. What do you name it? 

Emma: I don’t even know what to name it, literary?

Elsie: Excessive fantasy and low fantasy. I feel it’s low fantasy. ’trigger like a part of it’s in the true world, like Harry Potter. It’s not all similar to, you realize.

Emma: Dragons and fairies.

Elsie: Yeah. So anyway. It’s very magical. If anybody has books prefer it, ship them my approach. It’s my favourite, by no means to be overwhelmed. Okay, and my second e book that’s within the magical class is The Wishing Recreation. I’m obsessed, prefer it was positively a e book that I like, awakened every single day, and couldn’t wait to learn it. I used to be sort of having a tough season this summer time and it similar to got here on the excellent time and had loads of various things about it that had been very magical to me. For those who’ve ever learn a e book the place you’d do something to make that world actual, that was a factor that I actually cherished about it’s like, I hate it, however like it when there’s like a e book inside a e book that you just’ll by no means get to learn that’s so magical and exquisite.

Emma: That one’s a sequence. It’s like a kids’s e book sequence and also you’ll by no means actually get to learn it as a result of it’s not actual, 

Elsie: Yeah, however it’s type of like a love story in direction of kids’s books and like artwork and a bit of little bit of house design. It had loads of issues. 

Emma: It’s as if Willy Wonka was a author.

Elsie: Individuals say it has a Willy Wonka factor, however like I can’t settle for that comparability as a result of I similar to, don’t get Willy Wonka.

Emma: Okay. Willy Wonka. Effectively, there’s a contest. 

Elsie: Yeah, that’s true. 

Emma: So I dunno. She’s like I don’t like Willy Wonka that a lot, that is approach higher. 

Elsie: I’m creeped out by Willy Wonka. I’m simply gonna be sincere. The Timothy Chalamet might model possibly look a bit of bit much less creepy, so I’m excited to see that.

Emma: I feel you’re purported to be a bit of creeped by Willy Wonka. In these books that creator, loads of his stuff is sort of darker. It’s like darker stuff for teenagers. 

Elsie: The Johnny Deb model haunts my nightmares like I don’t prefer it. 

Emma: Yeah, I imply, Gene Wilder is sort of top-tier Willy Wonka. Yeah, it’s true. 

Elsie: Okay, so the opposite class that’s very totally different that I additionally love is Finish of the World. So my high two, and I feel I’ve learn all essentially the most well-known end-of-the-world books, however ship them my approach when you have one. I at all times desire a advice on this class, however my high two are The Handmaid’s Story and Station 11, they’re each classics. They’re each very totally different, however they hang-out me in the identical approach. They take up loads of area in my mind. I actually like interested by the top of the world for some cause. And it’s similar to, it’s a fixation I’ve, and I like each creator’s totally different model of it that they, you realize, it’s actual for them. And also you get to love, expertise it I feel is a lot enjoyable. 

Emma: Do you want zombie, monster, vampire end-of-the-world stuff? Or extra like, ’trigger those you’ve listed are a bit of extra, they’ve like illness or viruses.

Elsie: I assume the e book Severance is sort of a bit of little bit of a zombie e book and I actually loved that one. It was bizarre. It wasn’t an actiony e book although. It was extra of a literary e book. It was actually bizarre. Yeah. Most likely not as a lot on the zombies, however I feel I similar to Tire of Zombies, you realize, normally. 

Emma: Yeah. I get that. There are loads of zombies. 

Elsie: Yeah. I cherished the final of us. I sort of wished it could’ve been a e book as an alternative of a online game, however I believed it was cool that it was impressed by a online game to me, that was very attention-grabbing, like a extra subtle zombie present, and The Strolling Useless is like, for me is a zero out of 10, simply not for me in any respect. Yeah. Anyway, transferring on. So these are my honorable mentions of similar to books I’ve learn that I ha I’ve to say it. I can’t say them. Okay. I really like them a lot. I don’t know if I might say they’re my favourite above these different ones, however I additionally like, don’t wanna charge these and you’ll’t make me. So, okay the primary one is Challenge Hail Mary. So if you happen to ever desire a Area Fantasy e book, like I’m obsessed, I by no means thought I might love an area fantasy e book, and it was every little thing. I cherished it a lot. It was superb. And the subsequent one is Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, a ravishing e book. I do know I’ve talked about it a minimum of a few occasions. It’s like the attractive cowl, it’s a really colourful rainbowy-looking cowl. It’s a really distinctive e book, even for the creator, like I learn her different e book proper after that, instantly. And it was nothing prefer it. I don’t suppose you could find one other e book prefer it on the planet.

Emma: It’s a ravishing e book.

Elsie: It’s attractive. It’s so, you don’t must be into video video games.

Emma: It made me wanna get into video video games. 

Elsie: It made me see it as an artwork and respect it, and like be far more eager about it than I used to be earlier than which I feel that’s at all times cool in a e book. So, yeah. Beloved that one. It’s Gabrielle Zevin, After which the final one, I simply must say is Fairytale by Stephen King. I cherished it. It’s positively my favourite Stephen King e book that I’ve learn. I’ve solely learn 4 or 5 possibly, there’s rather a lot. I’m by no means gonna get by way of all of them and I sort of don’t wish to, however this one was actually magical and I felt prefer it was just like the Stephen King e book that was particular for Elsie. So I like it and I at all times suggest it for people who find themselves sort of on the sting. However aside from the writing memoir, it’s positively my favourite e book of his. And it’s model new prefer it was from prefer it’s final 12 months., I believed that was so cool too, as a result of loads of his most well-known books and books folks suggest are from the seventies. Like they’re often not the newer ones. So go Stephen King. Yeah. He nonetheless received it. 

Emma: He’s nonetheless received it. Reinvention, Legacy. Yeah, that one’s sitting on my shelf to be learn quickly. 

Elsie: Oh my gosh. You’re gonna like it. 

Emma: I’m very enthusiastic about it. Yeah. 

Elsie: It’s very magical. It’s like each fairytale mixed into one in a really satisfying approach. And it has his, like his lengthy boring intro of three hours. You already know, it has that, however it’s nonetheless good. It’s nonetheless every little thing. Yeah. I like it. 

Emma: That’s hilarious for evaluate. 

Elsie: All of them have that. It’s like, it was not a factor for Stephen King to love hook you within the first chapter in any respect. Not his transfer. 

Emma: Stevie. 

Elsie: Okay. He’s our greatest pal. So we are able to say this stuff. Don’t fear.

Emma: I feel so. We have now talked him up rather a lot. 

Elsie: Sure. Okay. So, now we’re gonna transfer on to some questions from Christine O. Sullivan about bookshelves. So I feel these are sort of attention-grabbing. I feel that while you discuss books and studying rather a lot, it is sort of a pure subsequent factor is like, How do you show them? What do you do with all these books? Do you retain all of them? Do you give them, you realize, the place do they go? 

Emma: Yeah. And bookshelves may be like an enormous assertion in your house, or they are often sort of minor. And until you purchase a home that already has a ton in it, you’re most likely gonna add some. So then you definately’re like, do I simply get like a freestanding? Do I do built-ins? Do I do floating? So anyway, loads of her questions are sort of geared towards that. So the primary one is, how have you learnt the suitable type bookshelf in your house? 

Elsie: I believed this was a extremely good query, so I might keep on the period of your property or the type of it. If it’s, you realize, a more moderen house that doesn’t actually have an period, then often these are made to love to emulate a sure period or a sure type. So I might sort of attempt to go consistent with that and I picked for one of many future questions, like a pair totally different choices for various kinds, however there are such a lot of choices. So I might not get hung up on like, there’s one proper or finest for everybody. That’s not true. I feel becoming your property is an important factor. And the primary tip I’ve is it’s a must to fear about scale above every little thing else. Don’t fear concerning the design, don’t fear about how they appear. Solely fear about measuring and scaling since you don’t need bookshelves that look dinky in your wall. That’s like bookshelves that go midway up. Until they’re going all the way in which throughout and it’s nearly like a ledge. I don’t abide by these halfway-up bookshelves. Like these little, you realize, like, they seem like they’re like large heaps bookshelves. You already know what I imply? Yeah. Like, no offense.

Emma: Sorry large heaps, however no. 

Elsie: So it doesn’t must be in-built. Like we’re not all gonna have the finances or some persons are renters. Some folks aren’t planning to remain. It doesn’t must be in-built, however it does want to suit the size of the house and go many of the approach up the wall. And I feel the one strategy to actually know that’s to get out that blue tape, the measuring tape, and measure the factor you’re interested by shopping for and tape out, you realize, the define of it seems to be on the wall and just remember to really feel like this suits the room. 

Emma: You too can use cardboard packing containers, like if you happen to’ve gotten a supply, you possibly can like sort of tape them collectively and make a bit of pretend shelf and see what it seems to be like. I do know that most likely sounds foolish, however prefer it really may be actually useful if you happen to’re undecided the way it’s gonna look in your area.

Elsie: I’ve executed that plenty of occasions just lately after we had been purchasing for television, we had been like reducing it out at totally different sizes, and placing it up there and it was very useful. 

Emma: It’s only a bummer while you purchase one thing and then you definately get all of it arrange and it’s like, Oh, I ought to have purchased the subsequent measurement up.

Elsie: It’s so irritating. 

Emma: Yeah. So construct the cardboard mannequin. 

Elsie: Sure, scale over every little thing. Okay. The subsequent query is, do you suggest {custom} bookshelves or do you buy them? Clearly, like, I’m gonna say built-ins are an ideal funding as a result of that’s what I at all times do. However I feel that they’re value it. I feel they’re costly until it’s an IKEA hack, IKEA hacks may be fairly reasonably priced, and I’m gonna hyperlink to these. However if you happen to’re gonna get custom-made bookshelves, it’s going to be some huge cash. However I feel it may be actually value it. It may make a room and it may be the primary aspect of what makes the room particular. So I might nonetheless think about it if it’s in your finances. 

Emma: Yeah, I might say the identical factor, prefer it simply is determined by your finances and if you happen to can not do the built-ins and also you’re undecided if you happen to may even do the IKEA hack model, possibly you’re not useful in that approach. No disgrace. Then there are issues you are able to do with like bookshelves that you just purchase, however once more, begin with scale. As Elsie stated, the 1st step, be sure that it’s the suitable measurement, after which you possibly can paint it. You may add molding to it. Like there are issues you could possibly do this, like even if you happen to’re not very useful, don’t have energy instruments you are able to do one thing to make it suit your area. 

Elsie: Even if you happen to’re portray any bookshelf to match your wall, if you happen to’re not thrilled with the way it seemed, that may make it look higher, and extra built-in. Yeah, it’s a superb choice. The subsequent query is what manufacturers are finest for pre-made bookshelves? So I’ve a really robust opinion. Do you have got any? 

Emma: No, I’ve no opinions. So let’s hear yours. 

Elsie: Okay. So for me, the primary basic bookshelf for a contemporary house is the CB two white leaning bookshelves. Are you aware what I’m speaking about? They’re steel they usually kinda lean on the wall and also you brace them with simply screws on the high and they’re simply hooked onto your wall endlessly.

They give the impression of being very cool, very trendy, very good. I feel they might look actually good in your own home, really, and I’ve seen them in additional conventional houses as properly. They’re very basic. On the size of bookshelves, I feel they’re additionally very reasonably priced. I feel it’s round 400 for one shelf, which is an inexpensive value contemplating the choice of built-ins. After which for a classic look, I’m gonna hyperlink to our pal Rachel Martino’s Instagram. She simply made an Instagram for her enterprise Dream Loft Studios. And she or he is sort of like, at all times doing these IKEA hack cabinets they usually’re superb. And she or he’s executed them three or 4 occasions, so there’s like loads of variations you possibly can take a look at. One among them has a hidden bar. It’s so cute. So positively take a look at her web page if you happen to want, you realize, an IKEA hack additionally, we’ve an IKEA hack in our weblog submit archives that Mandy did years in the past. So I’ll hyperlink to that one as properly if you need a extra written tutorial. Constructed-ins are so value it, however like in case you are like, I need them to be below $5,000 that it must be it, it most likely must be the IKEA hack model.

Emma: Yeah. Which is an efficient model. Okay. And the subsequent query is, what do you set in cabinetry below bookshelves? 

Elsie: So I’ve had the bookshelves had been, it’s like a cupboard on the backside fairly a number of occasions and I really like them. I feel it’s good. I used to be utilizing them in our final house, we had them in our eating room bookshelves and our lounge bookshelves. And the cool factor about them, to begin with, is they appear extra clear. You don’t must have books all the way in which right down to the bottom. Which is sweet, and also you even have like area for the undesirables in your life to love be hidden away. Similar to kitchen cupboards. Identical idea. It’s like possibly you don’t need each single factor on show. Would you like like a spot in your blender? So what I used to be placing in our eating room was largely collections. It was largely glassware, seasonal decor, Chinese language New Yr stuff, issues for events, and issues like that, and in addition generally I used to be placing within the tasks I used to be engaged on for the weblog. 

Emma: So you possibly can like cover it away and pull it again out?

Elsie: Sure, sure. Simply stuff that solely I would like. After which in the lounge, we did the vast majority of it was toy storage with like a bit of sort of drawer shelf that got here out, which was so good. After which two document cabinets. So it was like a spot for all of the vinyl information after which the entire remainder of it was toys. And that was truthfully one of the best toy storage I’ve ever had, and I miss it a lot as a result of it was like every little thing was there on this one area within the house and could possibly be organized all collectively. Which is very nice ’trigger you realize, in our present house and in most houses, you’re gonna have to love to retailer the toys in a couple of room.

Emma: Yeah. And because it’s like decrease to the bottom when you have younger children who similar to to get into issues, which is okay. Then it’s good to have toy storage or stuff that’s secure and completely fantastic for them to get into, after which you possibly can sort of shove it again in there and shut it up if you want to clear shortly for like somebody’s coming over or no matter and also you simply have to put issues away. In order that’s additionally good. 

Elsie: The cleansing was so quick. Yeah, similar to open all of them up and put all of the toys in. 

Emma: Precisely, sure. Particularly if it’s like sort of in baskets or little crates, you possibly can sort of simply throw stuff in there. The one different factor that I might add to your record is typically, I don’t suppose that is simply me, however you’ll have like an previous household photograph album that possibly I’m gonna put in a brand new album finally, however like, it’s like not essentially the cutest factor and also you don’t essentially need out, however it’s actually necessary to you. I even have, this so random, however some like previous journals, like actually from highschool, and one in every of ’em is pink with like cats on the duvet. However I sort of like maintaining them, however they’re not likely issues I need on the shelf that you would be able to see on a regular basis. So I really feel like down low in there is sort of a good place to retailer issues which are like particular to you, however possibly visually not going with every little thing else that you’ve got displayed, however it’s nonetheless such as you need it and also you need it to be accessible ’trigger it’s nonetheless particular to you. In order that’s additionally a superb place for that stuff. 

Elsie: 100% agree. 

Emma: Oh, and board video games. One other good place to retailer board video games or playing cards or you realize, issues that you just may wanna get out, puzzles. When folks come over. 

Elsie: That’s true. Our board video games. Oh, so good. Having all of them collectively. 

Emma: Yeah. All my puzzles are like in a closed cupboard altogether and you’ll simply pull one out, do it, and you set it again while you’re executed, you realize? 

Elsie: Superb. I really like that. So we’re bookshelf fanatics. So, I’ll put as many hyperlinks as we are able to for the totally different cabinets we’ve had. ’trigger there’s additionally a few excursions that present them and issues like that. And we’ll hyperlink the hidden library, after all. Oh, and there’s another query, how you can paint or replace an previous bookshelf? So we’ve a tremendous tutorial for this on the weblog. It’s known as The Greatest Paint for Kitchen Cupboards. We’ll hyperlink that within the present notes as properly. You must at all times use this tutorial anytime you paint a bit of furnishings. So cupboards, sure. I used it for bedside tables, chairs, sort of like something. 

Emma: Something that’s gonna get touched or used, which is most cupboards of any variety.

Elsie: Something however partitions it is best to use this tutorial. It’s so value it. It’s a number of additional steps, however it’s value it. So value it. It really works so significantly better. And it seems to be higher. Yeah. Okay. Oh my gosh. It’s time for our favourite phase. 

Emma: A joke or a truth, or possibly a meditation with Nova. 

Elsie: Hey Nova. Welcome again to the podcast.

Nova: Hello. 

Elsie: This week, do you have got a joke for us or a truth? 

Nova: I’ve a joke. 

Elsie: Okay. 

Nova: Why is Buzz Lightyear so good at arithmetic? 

Elsie: Ooh. Why is buzz gentle good at arithmetic? I don’t know.

Nova: As a result of he can depend. Two infinity and past.

Elsie: Oh, good one. I like it. Okay, we’ll be again subsequent week with our Consolation Rewatch episode, which is one in every of Emma’s favorites. Hey, that is one in every of my favorites, too. Jurassic Park 

Emma: Jurassic Park!

Elsie: We will’t wait. Okay, we’ll be again subsequent week.



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